tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-855691040587882776.post8000037150883217122..comments2024-01-17T02:36:49.708+00:00Comments on Sean Hellman: Natural stones, the Charnley Forest stoneSeanhellmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17475536325768589469noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-855691040587882776.post-73285579486550061802011-06-21T18:40:48.321+01:002011-06-21T18:40:48.321+01:00Great article. Thank you.
With the question of wa...Great article. Thank you. <br />With the question of water i think is more about what generates more appropriate suction effect on the edge. You can speed them up by use of water or slurry however it dous not give that extremely fine edge. Also I have found that there are many different grades of them from different locations.<br />Charnlie is novaculite by nature (simmilar to akie)and they are hard stones to work with. To get usual dishing out or bigger chips is hard work and especialy with chips is easier to limit the damage into usefull level and live with it. I use them for straight razors and mostly with water which is satisfactory to me so far as I do not like oil everywhere after honing sesion. Usualy I use Mr. Muscle oven cleaning foam. Usually one application for about 15 min with hot water rinse and stiff brush is enough to get oil and crud off the hone.<br />I am now more intriqued to hear about the mentioned Moughton as I do like the colour and patterning of them.adrspachnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-855691040587882776.post-91815484264696096332011-03-03T20:58:14.540+00:002011-03-03T20:58:14.540+00:00Richard, if I remember correctly I think these sto...Richard, if I remember correctly I think these stones are a form of novoculite. Please do not quote me on this.<br /><br />Robin I find that the stones I have found often need a good flattening and so I have not used anything to take the oil out of the stone, just abrade it away.<br />I also think what Rose is on about is the fact that he was trying to do the more major abrading like taking a small chip out of the edge. We are talking about a fine stone 3000-6000grit, now would you try taking a lot of metal with such a fine stone? I would only use this stone as a final hone, before stropping. <br />Perhaps he is just remembering the bad times, and using a fine stone to take metal off a tool edge, rather than just in bringing the edge back to sharp, is a mind numbing exercise. It does raise a few questions, as I am sure that such a shop would have a hand powered sandstone wheel to do the more major metal removal.Seanhellmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17475536325768589469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-855691040587882776.post-27697661680515896412011-03-03T11:11:38.365+00:002011-03-03T11:11:38.365+00:00Interesting that Rose disliked them but you fond t...Interesting that Rose disliked them but you fond them good. I presume he was comparing to the first silicone carbide or "carborundum" man made stones. I would expect these to cut faster but that still you would need a fine finishing stone afterwards.<br /><br />Have you ever tried boiling old stones in water to get rid of the crud and open them up? I generally wash in petrol or paraffin but heard boiling does a good job and is no doubt far safer.Robin Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05540543090007397534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-855691040587882776.post-60327014494647301482011-03-02T08:26:28.245+00:002011-03-02T08:26:28.245+00:00Interesting post Sean. I wonder why some stones us...Interesting post Sean. I wonder why some stones use water and others use oil. I know you can't swap back to water once you've used oil. I picked up (literally) some Moughton natural mudstones which look very pretty with their red/grey banding and again these were favoured for getting an edge on straight razors especially in the Sheffield trade. I'm using water with mine which makes it easy to see when the slurry forms, but I don't know whether this was the original lubricant.<br />Looking forward to your next post.<br /><br />BTW are Charnleys mudstone too?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com